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While the ideal balance between in office and at-home work still a work in progress for many companies, one thing is clear: Workplace wellness is top of mind for employers even as, or more so, as the definition of the workplace expands.
My guest for this episode is Rachel Hodgdon, president & CEO of IWBI International WELL Building Institute, which recently announced that adoption of the WELL building standard now exceeds 6 billion square feet.

Hogdgon and I discuss how companies are navigating the ongoing debate about hybrid work and deciding what’s best for their individual enterprises. Regardless of how many in-office days companies require, she said, employers are learning quickly that they’re now in competition with the home environment.
“If you don’t earn the commute by creating a place that is more conducive to at least certain types of work, where employees feel more productive than they could at home, then you’re gonna lose out in terms of recruitment and retention,” she said.
Listen to the episode to hear more insights from Hodgdon. Here’s a sample of the topics we discussed:
Hodgdon’s personal journey (1:26)
The 6 billion-square-foot milestone (3:38)
Office culture vs. the desire for flexibility (5:57)
Helping CEOs understand their employees (10:02)
Optimizing the workplace for return to office (15:14)
The ROI of wellness (23:30)
Next frontier in wellness data (24:49)
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